Autonauts Wiki talk:Community portal

Prototype discussion
Proposed idea is to move all the prototype items/pages/links towards Autonauts Prototype page to have it seperate or not mix it up with the current release.

Pages should have a "(Prototype)" after each pages title to make room for the current release (ie Axe --> Axe (Prototype)). To do this go in the page options at the top of page and select More then Move, type in said information and select the option to not redirect the page. --DynamicXYZ 00:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I can probably bulk move the prototype pages, but I can't bulk fix the links Pumbloom44 (talk) 18:11, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Better to bulk move, as we will have to fix the links even if we move pages one by one --2.36.119.159 19:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Merging this community with the Autonauts community on Fandom
As some of you might know, Gamepedia and Fandom joined forces a year ago. Soon, we'll be bringing all Gamepedia and Fandom wikis together on one united platform.

That means, there are two separate communities on the same topic in the same network - the Autonauts wiki here and the Fandom Autonauts wiki.

Wouldn't it be great if all Autonauts fans could join forces and work on the same player resource, rather than splitting their efforts between two separate sites?

If you agree, the Fandom/Gamepedia team would love to help both communities merge into one. We can archive one wiki (meaning you could still read it, but not edit it) and direct visitors over to the active wiki, to get everyone together in one place.

That leaves the question: Where should the One and Only Awesome Autonauts wiki come together? Should the community here move in with the Fandom folks or vice versa?

Some things to consider:
 * There is a more active community of editors here on Gamepedia.
 * Despite of this, the Fandom wiki is getting way more pageviews a month than this wiki: 117,000 pageviews on Fandom vs. 26,000 here on Gamepedia.
 * Pages from either side can be transferred exactly as they are with edit histories intact to the other side, so no work gets lost.
 * The wiki here has a better skin design and local navigation setup. The design and navigation on Fandom could easily be improved as well, though, taking pointers from the wiki here.
 * Archiving a wiki and redirecting it to another doesn't instantly move visitors to the active wiki. It's quite likely that a lot of people will still find the higher-ranked wiki on Google for months to come, follow that link, but then not follow along to the active wiki. Because of that, a community is usually more successful if it merges to where there's the most traffic, which equates to he most eyeballs on your content, which again equates to a higher chance of attracting new editors.

What do you think? Please let me know! Miralaime (talk) 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * There's a reason there's more editors on Gamepedia: It's simply a better platform (looks, design, and use). Fandom (wikia) was the first real attempt at a wiki for Autonauts; the reason here was simple: Wikia was the only platform at the time. Over time Gamepedia came along, and that was used in the interim in the very closed beta period. It was new, it was robust, it made sense. Now, I'm not going to say I know what Fandom plans to do, but the fact that they purchased a competitor to become a monopoly on public wiki content is honestly frightening. Fandom's proven time and time again that they do not care about their wiki communities, only their page views (and ad revenue). Fandom continues to use an outdated, unfriendly design, even after gamepedia came around as a competitor. Why? Because Gamepedia wasn't threatening their ad revenue enough, and therefore they had no need to update or enhance. People continued to use Fandom, despite the fact better alternatives existed, simply for two reasons: They were used to the jankyness of Fandom, and Google continued to prefer wikia/fandom links. Considering you (personally) needed an editor on this site to fix the Sitenotice (albeit a small error), didn't sign your talk proposal and Fandom still let you be the communication's agent, I feel like Fandom still has no idea what they're doing and are still in this business 100% for the ad revenue. Not really putting any points in Fandom's favor. Feildmaster (talk) 07:25, 23 November 2019
 * As a very recent contributor that has no history with Fandom or Gamepedia, I very much prefer Gamepedia right now. It's ease of use and active editor base is everything. A wiki is nothing without a good editor base. Also, raw page views doesn't really say much. Do people stay, do people read, do they get what they want out of their stay? I think here, they do, or will soon. Stylva (talk) 10:06, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I've edited and done things in both Gamepedia and the Fandom wiki. I found that the Fandom wiki was harder to manage in terms getting styling and layout to how I want it visualized. Your freedom in editing such things and overall just trying to avoid having the content seem squished in center of the page which makes believe that who ever designed the wiki designed it like a blog, not a wiki. But that doesn't mean the fandom wiki is all that bad; new users may find it easier to add or modify content and can be considered a starter wiki for those who aren't tech savey knowing their way around the mediawiki coding structure. Personally, I'd just prefer gamepedia since it has exactly what I want which is the freedom to modify the content in the way I want it to look like. As for page views I honestly could care less, eventually people will start coming here instead of the fandom wiki but that will take time. DynamicXYZ 18:29, 25 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I'll take that as three votes for "merge here on Gamepedia", since it doesn't sound like you'd generally be opposed to welcoming Fandom editors here, if they wanted to move. Thanks for weighing in!


 * Since Fandom and Gamepedia (the companies, not the platforms) merged a year ago, we've hopefully learned quite a bit from each other and made some changes that specifically benefit the editor community. For instance, Fandom's admins received Special:Analytics as a new feature, since it's useful to admins on Gamepedia, and we've brought wiki managers on board for Fandom's top wikis as well. Note that, next year, the Fandom wikis and Gamepedia wikis will all be moved onto a new, joint platform. That platform will run the latest MediaWiki version, and it should bring together the good parts from both sides. It means that Fandom and Gamepedia wikis will work much the same eventually, so some differences between the two platforms will be mute in the long run. That's no reason why we can't unite the two Autonauts communities now, though, if all editors were okay with it.


 * That said: If you'd like to keep up-to-date on what that unified platform will look like, or you just generally want to know what Fandom/Gamepedia are doing for editors, you can follow the staff blog on Fandom to get updates. Miralaime (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)


 * If both platforms are going to be on the exact same version of MediaWiki, and both platforms will have the same functionality, why not merge the two domains into one? No matter which page you look at, you will always be looking at the same pages, with the same layout, the same CSS, the same data etc. etc.. I'd prefer the one on Gamepedia due to the nice colors and layout though.. MasterGuy 08:58. 01 December 2019 (GMT)


 * They will indeed have the same version of MediaWiki, and more or less the same functionality (exactly what features will and won't make it to the new platform hasn't been ironed out yet). At first, Gamepedia wikis will still have their current skin and Fandom wikis will keep theirs. Only farther down the road will we roll out a unified skin that combines the best features from both platforms. Even then, though, it wouldn't be easy to just combine the two wikis onto one domain. They are still two separate sites, built by (probably) two different sets of people. There may be a page on both wikis on the same topic, and that can't be merged by a script. Someone with knowledge of the game would have to do that manually.


 * In the meantime, though, all we're trying to achieve is making sure there is only one active wiki on the topic, so all people wanting to edit will do it together, in the same place. So far, the Fandom community has neither objected nor agreed to moving here. We'll give them a bit more time, and if no one speaks up, archive the wiki over there and direct people here. Miralaime (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Recipe template help
The Bot Database needed updating and I tried to update the recipe myself but the template didn't seem to want to update when I edited the source of the page to reflect the new recipes of the building. Could someone help me out and tell me how to work with these templates for the next time? Skellitor30148725 (talk) 02:40, 13 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Recipes are stored in a Cargo table, so the page has to be saved once first to update that table, then go to More -> Purge cache or just edit and save the page again without making any changes to pick up the updated recipe. But in the future, please wait for changes in beta to go live before making updates. Thanks! Darthnemesis (talk) 04:17, 13 March 2020 (UTC)